Nocturn Live Api Device
| Name: |
Nocturn Live Api Device |
| Version: |
0.9 |
| Published: |
2014/3/5 |
| Updated: |
2016/4/7 |
| Type: |
Ableton Max Device |
| OS: |
only Windows x86/x64 |
Control Ableton Live with your Novation Nocturn. Provides several pages for mixer and device control, switchable with the controller.
The layout of the pages is pretty much like you would expect for a control script in Ableton Live. Parameters and tracks sorted in Banks of 8. But there's a custom section for more experimental stuff.
It works completely independent from Live's midi I/O and control scripts. A "part" of the device can directly "talk" with the Nocturn via a custom driver that we have to install first (read below).
Highlights:
- open a GUI window any time with the controller to see the current mapping
- device parameter control with snapshot saving, fading, randomization
- 16-tracks-mode - allows to use all 16 buttons for mute, arm, selection of 16 tracks on one page
- on mixer/1 page you can show level meters on the encoder led rings, what looks nice
- more complex mappings like "All Tracks Volume", "Select Track + Arm it" or mappings to keystrokes
- build your own page by assigning parameters to dials
- save and recall settings with the Liveset
If you want to edit this device in max4live's preview mode, switch off the device before you hit the edit button. This prevents the 11nocturn object to block the second instance opened for preview mode.
For this device to work it is necessary to replace the original driver of the Nocturn with the libusb driver. Further instructions below.
Have fun. O.
Screenshots:
Requirements:
Novation Nocturn, Ableton Live + Max4Live, Windows OS
Setup:
It should work right out of the box IF the Nocturn driver has been replaced with the libusb driver.
How to install the libusb driver:
- connect the Nocturn and make sure the Novation driver is installed.
- create a temporary folder because you'll need one
- execute the inf-wizard.exe included in this publication*
- select Nocturn device from list, click "next" until you are asked for a location to store inf-file and use your temporary folder
- at the last screen click on "Install Now.." Done!
You can delete the temporary data afterwards.
If you change the USB-port for the Nocturn, your system may install the original
Novation driver again.
In this case just repeat the procedure with inf-wizard.exe.
You can use the Windows Device Manager to monitor driver changes and stuff.
Insert the device on a midi track. It doesn't interact with this track, it just needs a place to live somewhere in the Live Set.
* the inf-wizard.exe file is not my work, it is part of this sourceforge project ver1.2.6.0
http://sourceforge.net/projects/libusb-win32/ (GNU General Public License version 3.0 (GPLv3))
So if you don't trust the executeable file in this release, download it by yourself.
Frozen into this device are current versions of 11nocturn, 11strokes, 11clicks objects for win x86/x64.
This information is mirrored in the Nocturn_Live_Api_Device-READ-THIS.txt file.
Changelog:
v 0.7:
- new encoder resolution system
- save your own order of parameters for devices
- 2 additional modes for snapshot fades
- hotswap device with the speed dial
- several small but important fixes
v 0.7.1:
- some smaller fixes including missing mapping button on device pages
v 0.8:
- device mapping is saved with Liveset
- parameter snapshots are saved with Liveset
- current page index is saved with Liveset
- hold mixer button also provides quick access to crossfader
- Live 9.6 device selection bug workaround
- assign any parameters to dials on device page 11 and 12
v 0.9:
- all problems with selected device detection fixed
- redesigned MAP function for devices and dials
- smaller fixes and cleanup
Files:
Nocturn_Live_Api_Device_0.9.amxd
Nocturn_Live_Api_Device-READ-THIS.txt
inf-wizard.exe |
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This script is so good!
I just can't figure out how to mute, unmute the tracks, it doesn't work and how I assign controls in the custom section.
It's not a midi controller anymore?
Beside this it works fine on ableton 10.
Thx for the work
The "mute-problem" is a bug of Max version < 8.0.5. Install latest Max and set Max folder in Live's preferences.
Check out Devices-page 11 and 12. There you can freely assign any parameter to any dial. access page 9 - 12 with the lower button row while holding down device page button. your custom mapping is stored/recalled with the Liveset.
Let me know if you find any bugs, atm I see no reason to edit the device.
And use the 1-2-3 switch at bottom-right corner to see all available pages and more help text.
take care,
O.
Hold "devices" button and press button 11 or 12. There you can manually assign controls in Live to dials on the Nocturn.
Just one question, how to switch between pages for more than 8 parameters?
Any news for possible upgrade? Since the framework updated to Python 2.7 in Live 9.6, some functionality of device doesn't work anymore :(
I'd really love to make a bigger update, I have to wait for some more freetime.
I haven't tested it in 9.6, yet
O.
I will wait for device update patiently, since there's no compact controllers with endless encoders and such functionality
Seriously, I had thought myself of using the speedial push to trigger instead of delete, so I manage to figure that out.. with a bit of messing, I managed to get it to trigger scenes too if the Master track is focussed
So just need to work out where to put delete clip and close browser now.. I'll leave the device assignment pages up to you when you have time!
Thanks,
Scott
I can't see what encoder 5 does on the Custom page - it says 4-Audio but doesn't seem to map anywhere?
I like the Browser / Session encoder, but would it be possible to close the browser from the Nocturn please?
How easy is it to start a clip playing? I can do it by switching focus from browser to session, then using select track and scene then pressing button 6 (Enter) but if the session view doesn't have focus this doesn't work (although I can still highlight the clip using select track & scene).
How do you assign specific instruments to Devices A-G?
Lastly, how easy is it to edit the mappings? The work you've done here has inspired me to start looking into M4L but would need some guidance...
Ok more than a couple sorry - but great work, it's brilliant!
Thanks,
Scott
You're right, it depends on the window focus to start a clip with enter. An idea is to have the speeddial button triggering the clip, and putting the "delete clip" function somewhere else.
The device assigning is hidden, that's a bug. This needs an update that's for sure.
Edit mappings: that depends, but at the moment not without roughly understanding the patches. I'm glad that you feel inspired. I started with m4l the same way. I had this device from someone else and i needed to understand it to make the changes which i thought would make it the ultimate device. Never used the device but learned enough to start with selfmade things. And after a while I even started learning js, java, C. The only thing I regret is that I did not come accross Max/MSP earlier.
yes i wrote an external for that purpose but it's only windows compatible. download 11keystrokes from this page and see if that fits your needs. that's what i used in the nocturn device.
O.
http://www.11olsen.de/code/max-objects/11strokes
Few Questions
How do you create new custom room (custom 2) and save it?
how to map keystrokes?
Thank you
Maybe I can help a little, the device needs an update anyway.
Does it workes with vst plug in?
Do we still have a learn button?
Thank you
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